AV: How was it that you and Ian
Boddy hooked up and decided to work together?
RR: Ian and I met each other
a few years ago at an industry trade show through our common friend
Paul Haslinger. We became friends and liked each other's recent
music. We started floating the idea of a collaboration and it seemed
AV: What was it that you liked
about Ian's approach to music that made you consider this joint effort?
RR: His recent work is quite
deep, with interesting sound design and beautiful spaces. His
approach is different from mine, a bit more overtly electronic, which
makes a collaboration much more interesting than if we sounded similar.
AV: And you Ian, what was it
that attracted you to Robert's work and made you want to spend time
working with him?
IB: I really liked the dark
atmospherics that Robert was coming out with recently - such as Humidity.
They had a wonderful organic quality about them. I've also
always loved that beautiful gliss guitar solo voice he uses and felt
our two current approaches could fuse really well.
AV: Tell me about what each of
you brought to the table when it came to the blending of your styles
in this joint effort?
RR: We made a point of doing
most of the work together in the same room, rather than through the
mail. Ian first came out here to California for a week, then a month
later I joined him in Northern England. We each had some ideas and
sounds that we prepared in advance. I had several rhythms I had
recorded with the modular synth, and Ian had some beautiful textural
material he created with Metasynth. We decided together which of
these elements we each liked, then started filling in a structure. A "concept"
started forming, and we basically encouraged each other to
contribute the elements that we liked best about each other's style.
We enjoyed reversing our standard roles a bit.
For example, before Ian arrived at my studio, I set up my piano for a "prepared
piano" recording by inserting rubber erasers between all
the strings. Ian loved the idea of having an acoustic piano
available, so he performed all the prepared piano parts on the album.
In contrast, many synthetic sounding parts actually come from my
modular synth, although most people would expect them to be Ian's
contribution. The whole process was quite organic and very pleasant.
AV: Anything you would like to
add to that Ian?
IB: Robert tells it pretty
much how it happened. It's certainly a bit of a ( pleasant ) surprise
that Robert did most of the rhythmic work on his new MOTM modular
system and that I did a substantial part of the sound design and
atmospherics. This may come as a surprise to a lot of people -
it did to us but that's one of the joys of collaborating - you never
quite know how it's going to pan out ahead of time. The prepared
piano Robert mentioned was also great fun to play and in many ways
became the glue which we used to tie the various sections together -
it's there at the start and end of the album and is reprised several
Was it difficult working long distance with Ian and how were most of
the exchanges accomplished?
RR: We both wanted the
pleasure of working together at the same time and place, so we spent
time in each other's respective studios. The main problem involved
international air travel in the wake of 9-11. I had actually
purchased my airline tickets on the evening of September 10. You can
imagine what was going through my mind the next day!
IB: We had done a lot of
preparatory work. Robert had come up with some nice sequenced
modular sections and I had a whole load of textures and sound design
ideas. Our first goal was to sift through all this and choose
sections that we thought of mutual interest. This could really only
be done in each others company hence Robert pointing out how
essential we felt it to physically work together and not just via cyberspace.
Will the followers of your work see an equal mix of your style and
Ian's or will it be new directions for the project as a whole?
RR: I'm not really sure. I
think it sounds quite different from either of our solo work, but
obviously people will recognize our individual styles and sounds.
IB: Some people like to play
guessing games but they often get it wrong. Of course Robert's
gliss guitar solo stands out but I don't think many people would
recognise my ever so subtle prepared piano sections :-)
Robert mentions in his announcement that the project had a science
fiction kind of feel o theme to it, what is that all about?
IB: Well this wasn't entirely
pre-planned. As I mentioned above the prepared piano with that
John Cage like sound gave these sections an almost 50's avant garde
feel. On top of this I had some really nice samples of the Aurora Borealis
as well as several really unusual digital manipulations of radio
broadcasts that I had prepared for a concert that I was playing in
the UK. Putting these ideas together started to create a nice
atmosphere which really clicked in our minds when the two of us had
gone out one day for a walk in the forests around where Robert lives
to get some fresh air. We just sort of chatted about where the album
was going and decided we could accentuate this initial impression and
give it a real 50's B-movie sci-fi feel in places which was certainly
fun to do. So it's not really got a set concept as such. It just
turned out the way it did due to the two of us interacting musically.
Who will be handling the distribution of Outpost in the U.S.?
RR: It will come out only on
the DiN label in the UK, and I think Hypnos will help
spread it in this country. It will definitely be available for direct
purchase through my own website http://www.amoeba.com
Moon are the official
distributors. However Hypnos
and probabaly Backroads
will get it too. As Robert mentions you can get it direct from
his web site or if you prefer from http://www.DiN.org.uk
AV: Sounds great and I'm sure
those who follow both of you as separate artists will be anxiously
awaiting this collaborative effort in the next few months. AV will
bring you more information as it becomes available so stay tuned.
DiN Announces Outpost: The
Joint Effort with Robert Rich
Din 11 - provisionally titled "Outpost
" is a collaborative effort between DiN boss Ian Boddy
and US muscian Robert Rich. Boddy flew over to join Rich in
his San Francisco studio at the beginning of October to begin work on
the project. Rich was then in the UK performing a one-off London gig
( coincidentally on the same day, November 3rd as Boddy's Buddle Arts
centre concert ) after which he travelled up to the DiN studio near
Durham to complete the album. Rich will be mixing the final results
back in his studio for a release in Febuary/March 2002.