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Todd Mosby
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Between Landscape and Lineage: Todd Mosby’s American Heartland There’s something fitting about the way Todd Mosby’s music seems to exist between places. His work has never belonged to a single tradition, but instead draws from a deep well of influences—Missouri bluegrass roots, the intricate discipline of North Indian classical music, and the openness of West Coast jazz. As the only guitarist within the Imrat Khani Gharana and the creator of the 18-string Imrat guitar, Mosby has spent decades shaping a language that feels both grounded and exploratory. What he describes as “geotemporal” composition isn’t just a concept—it’s a reflection of a lifetime spent connecting landscapes, cultures, and states of mind through sound. In this conversation, we sit down with Mosby alongside producer Jeffrey Weber to take a closer look at his latest release, American Heartland. As the second chapter in his ongoing musical travelogue, the album shifts its focus inward, trading the expansive horizons of the Southwest for something more rooted and personal. Recorded at The Village Studios and brought to life by a remarkable group of players—including Vinnie Colaiuta and Leland Sklar—the record feels less like a departure and more like a return. It’s an album shaped by memory, place, and a deep respect for the musical soil Mosby first grew in. What emerges from American Heartland is not just a tribute to geography, but to identity itself. There’s a quiet confidence in the way Mosby allows these influences to breathe—never forcing fusion, but letting it unfold naturally, as if these traditions were always meant to meet. In the discussion that follows, we explore how this balance is achieved, from the early influence of Ustad Imrat Khan to the collaborative spirit that defines the album’s production. It’s a window into an artist still evolving, still searching, and still finding new ways to translate the landscapes within and around him into sound.
TM: Through the study of ragas and their accompanying technical exercises, my right hand guitar technique was honed to a very high level. Horizontal fingering was shifted to a one finger ascending descending technique with a second finger close at the highest ascending note. This leads to a sitar kind of phrasing which is very vocal in nature. On guitar and Imrat Guitar, I also have the advantage of ascending descending vertically across strings which leads to very rapid single note speed and creation of harmony. The pulling of the meen or bending of notes was taken to a height which far surpasses anything that blues guitarists are doing, with the exception of maybe slide guitar. Imrat always said the Imrat guitar is better than sitar and better than guitar. It allows access to the best of both worlds. Also whenever a new instrument is created, new music needs to be composed to accommodate the change. When I compose I access both of these philosophies contingent mainly on where the music leads, the instrumentation required, the audience and direction of melody and harmony. These are the only conscious decisions I tend to make. Otherwise the inspiration for melody and harmony is pretty much unconscious. A few ideas and concepts require time to decipher and work out, but for the most part it is a steady stream of thought. Since I am not writing for anyone or anything, I have the freedom to write music for music’s sake. AV: You hold the rare distinction of being the only guitarist in the famed Imdhad Khani Gharana. Does that 500-year legacy feel like a weight of responsibility when you’re composing, or does it act more as a liberation for your creative voice?
What was the specific sound in your head that you couldn't achieve with a standard six-string that necessitated the invention of an 18-string sitar-guitar hybrid? TM: I came to a point in my Indian raga studies where the acoustic guitar could no longer service my development as student of the music. To reach the truly higher aspects of Classical North Indian music meant understanding the finer details of tuning. Because I had no sympathetic strings, my ability to strike onto the heart of each note and create the natural chordal resonance of the sympathetic string vibration, it became a severely limiting factor. I was also taught the essence of North Indian raga music and level of musicianship is determined mainly by one’s ability to tune the instrument as well as to play and pull in tune. In other words, playing into the natural resonance of the instrument and firing the sympathetic strings. AV: You’ve worked extensively with Will Ackerman, a titan of the Windham Hill sound. How did his "less is more" philosophy influence your approach to production before you transitioned into the more orchestrated, multi-layered world of your recent projects? TM: Will Ackerman taught me how to use space inside a recording as well as how to piece together all the absolute best golden moments of each take and create a finished jewel. He is also the best barometer for recording solo acoustic guitar on the planet. Very difficult to do. His attention to detail is astonishing. To explain further, recording deals with a limited amount of space within a fixed amount of time. These factors never change once a tune is committed to tape. Will’s record philosophy is to start with the base instrument, guitar in my case, get a finished, golden track and then build/layer/overdub the rest of the instruments around that. The record develops organically as each musician adds their parts. The individual parts are left to each studio musician to create under Will’s guidance. He is very much a hands on producer in this sense with an impeccable taste for what is right. The individual layering creates a separation which is unique to the Windham Hill sound. Leaving space for other instruments to enter and leave, becomes critical to his work flow as does the intense level of editing required at times. The two recordings with Jeff required me to use every aspect of what I learned working with Will to create the finished albums. It is a constant learning process. AV: American Heartland is the second chapter in a musical travelogue of America. How did the conceptual process differ when you were mapping out the "magic and strength" of the Southwest in Land of Enchantment compared to the "soul of Missouri" on this record?
TM: It has definitely shifted over the years. In general, categorizing music can be challenging. When I first started as an academy voter, there was a New Age category and Contemporary Instrumental was a subcategory of New Age. A few years later, Contemporary Instrumental became its own category. When this happened, Contemporary Instrumental appeared to become a catch all for everything from smooth Jazz to ECM New Music to traditional New Orleans, Classical new music ensembles, new age and prog rock bands. It became a very strange category and each year seemed to highlight a different style. Last year a new category emerged titled Alternative Jazz. Maybe it was a way to defray some of the wide mix of music found in Contemporary Instrumental. The artists entering the Alternative Jazz category now range from hip hop, rap to contemporary jazz (vocal or instrumental), traditional jazz not based on standards to spoken word in some cases. So, again it appears to be a catch all. Anyway, it is still wide open at this point to see where either of these two categories land. AV: You attended Berklee as an undergrad and Webster as a graduate student. How does that academic grounding play into your "painter’s imagination" when you are trying to capture something as abstract as a "geotemporal soundscape"?
There is a central theme, direction and purpose to each tune which contributes to the visual direction and concept of the project as a whole. AV: Many artists move to the coasts to find their voice, but you’ve lived in Missouri your whole life. What has staying rooted in the "Show-Me State" allowed you to preserve in your music that you might have lost in New York or Los Angeles? TM: I will say there is a definite trade off. In New York, LA or even Nashville, which is closer to home, I would most likely have wound up, among other things, becoming a side musician with the goal of getting on tours with larger selling acts and doing all the things musicians do in a major music center for commercial music. The musical focus would probably have been outwards working projects for others. St. Louis is not a commercial music center. By the time I acquired the chops to compete for work in the other three major centers for music, I had a son, I was under contract for gigs two years out, established a solid teaching practice and had plenty of compositional and performance opportunities to earn a decent living. It was hard to breakaway. I was able to compose and perform music in many different venues and varied film and advertising outlets. The projects were mostly based on my own personal vision and scope. In St. Louis it is very easy to develop your own voice because it is so cut off from what others are doing. Staying in Missouri also offered tenures with specialized stylized bands like the Police, Motown, original New Wave and Traditional Jazz which shaped my performance and writing concept as well. AV: You are one of the few musicians who has mastered Western composition, jazz improvisation, and Indian raga. Is there a specific mental "switch" you flip when moving between these, or have they become a single, fluid palette for you at this point? TM: I do flip a switch when keeping true to each style although I can also cross pollinate when needed or as inspiration strikes. For example, when performing traditional or contemporary jazz I may pull a note in north Indian style or play a phrase from a raga. Although because I am thinking vertically against moving chord structures the approach becomes mostly centered on weaving lines into chordal passages. The phrase can become angular, chromatic or linear depending on the structure of the tune and shape of the melody. When performing raga style, I am thinking a linear approach and respecting the characteristic ascending descending notes of the raga, puckers or licks which make the raga unique and phrases which determine the mood of that particular raga. Chords do not exist technically in this music other than what is found in the natural sympathetic string resonance. Another aspect of Indian music is the taal or count. It is the cycle of time in which a phrase loops such as; 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 10, 11, 12, 14, 16 beat cycles. Because I understand harmony, I tend to cross pollinate this style with modal chords characteristic to the raga movement of notes. The contemporary compositions I personally create have a tendency to consciously or unconsciously blend these platforms. Sometimes it depends on the instrument I have in hand, other times it depends on the ensemble instrumentation. Essentially, due to personal experience, study, knowledge and authentic choice, the music flows in directions dictated by melody and or harmony. For contemporary Indian music, Imrat taught me to create my own path based on the capabilities of the Imrat Guitar. AV: Your travelogue series will eventually conclude with Northeastern sketches. Do you find yourself already "hearing" the textures of the East Coast while you are still immersed in the sounds of the Heartland?
TM: The song titles tend to offer a visual type reference to geography and place. For instance, Clouds Above Golden Fields, Palomino, All The Stars tonight, On The Farm, A Full Moon Rising are titles which depict a visual reference or scene. I also offer the song story along with a haiku which captures the songs essence in minimalistic terms as part of the packaging. The melody, chords, instrumentation and arrangement all combine to support the emotive aspects of the overall picture. In a sense, it is contemporary program music which helps the listener relate to the purely instrumental aspect easier. I also use vocalise to give the arrangement a human, vocal element. Words are kept to a minimum so the listener can use their own imagination to visualize scenes and landscapes. AV: American Heartland is an "emotionally moving ode to Missouri". After traveling sonically to other regions, what was the most surprising thing you rediscovered about your home state during the writing of this album? TM: I feel what was rediscovered most is the longing, beauty, gratitude and thankfulness I have for being born in my native region and the varied experiences I was able to have along the way which has shaped who I am. Being born and raised between the Missouri, Meramec and Mississippi Rivers, the final stop off place of Daniel Boone, start and end points of the Lewis and Clark Expedition, home to Mark Twain and Scott Joplin brings much historical richness to me and the area. I am not sure if a project like this matters to anyone in St. Louis or the State nor do I care, but for me it is important to me that I offer an ode to Missouri. I find it a source of personal inspiration. I love that I had the opportunity to experience the heart and soul of rural America in such a fascinating way and chose to write about it. AV: You recorded this album at the legendary Village Studios in Los Angeles. Did the ghosts of history-making sessions by Steely Dan or Frank Zappa in that building influence the "sophisticated yet accessible" direction you took with producer Jeffrey Weber? TM: For studio layout, room size and instrument placement it did help. Also tracking with the original boards and in these iconic rooms, it is hard not to think of the amount of history, signal and vibration that went thru those wires and vibrated within those floors and walls. It is an amazing kind of feeling. There is a reason recording studios retain legendary status and I feel it has to do with the quality found in gear, room sound and personnel. At Village Studios the sight lines are clean, set up and breakdown is efficient, nice rooms and places to chill for playback and in between tracks, great mic selections, preamps and mix board, excellent pianos, operational gear, plenty of room and space for tracking, excellent headphone monitoring and playback, great isolation, efficient and qualified engineers and assistants.This all adds to the vibe of the place definitely matters as far as work flow, efficiency and end result. AV: The lineup on this record is a literal "all-star" team, including Vinnie Colaiuta and Leland Sklar. How do you direct such high-level session masters to ensure they are serving your specific Missouri vision rather than just providing their signature sounds?
Jeff really liked the variety of moods with A Full Moon Rising and felt it would work nicely as a part of the package. AV: Your cover of Joni Mitchell’s "Both Sides Now" features Michael Manring, Lola Kristine, Luis Conte and cellist Judy Kang. What did you want to say with your arrangement of that classic that hadn't been said in the countless other versions over the decades? TM: This was a piece that Michael Manring and Lola Kristine performed live numerous times during our concert tours together. I would always have them open the second set with this tune and it always provided a special moment in the evening. With this concept in mind, I decided to create a recorded arrangement of this classic Joni Mitchell tune in Contemporary Folk style. Cello was used on the original first recording by Judy Collins which I pay tribute to in this arrangement. I also love writing for vocal, piano, acoustic guitar, cello, bass and percussion, it reminds me of the second James Taylor album and the first Jimi Spheris album. What separates this recording from the others is the personnel involved, the instrumentation I chose and the haunting vocals, the expanded sections and reworking of harmony. To have the opportunity to arrange this composition for this level of performers is unique and something which may never be repeated. AV: "Palomino" was the first single and is described as a "cinematic masterpiece". Can you tell us about your love for drawing and riding horses as a child and how those visual lines translated into the "galloping bossa nova" rhythm of the track? TM: If you have ever ridden a horse in canter, gallop or running mode, this is the feeling I was after. It is a beautiful thing when horse and rider become one during a canter or gallop through what feels like a melding of auric fields. To capture in a drawing is one thing, to experience live is a whole other thing. Hopefully I captured this experience in music. The fluidity of the A section, melodic question and answer of the B section, hesitation of the C section with the diminished scale all add to the exhilarating experience of riding one of these amazing animals. When the percussion enters in the second A section, this is when the real ride begins. Luis Conte is an excellent percussionist and portrayed this feel beautifully as did all the musicians. AV: You took a very "French Impressionist" approach to tracks like "Clouds Above Golden Fields," referencing Satie and Debussy. How do you balance those European classical sensibilities with the "earthy" Missouri roots of the album? TM: The Missouri Ozark plateau region, where I was raised, was settled by the French during the early part of European incursion. Many of the towns in this area still bear French names. There is a reason for this. Early settlement had to do in part with similarities of landscapes found in both the Ozark Plateau region and areas found in France. Missouri is also filled with many waterways, a western plains region and northern plains area. The rolling hills support farming, wine making and growing wheat. When I see the white cumulus clouds passing overhead on a late Spring or early Summer day, it reminds me of a Millet or Monet painting or Debussy describing fields of heather or his refections on water. The earthly sensibilities is built into the history and landscape of the region. The landscape is not majestic or spectacular but one with a refined natural beauty and hidden subtleties. AV: "Joanie’s Town" is a piece dedicated to your wife. Musically speaking, what are the specific textures or "snazzy" elements in that track that represent her personality to you?
The postlude is in contemporary folk / new age style and offers a prayerful and introspective variation of the same chant. AV: The physical CD includes poetry, images, and stories. In an era dominated by streaming, why was it important for you to provide such a tactile, multi-media experience for American Heartland? TM: There are many listeners in my demographic who still have CD players and love the experience of a tangible audio product in their hands. CDs and vinyl also offer a much higher quality audio resolution and listening experience than most streaming platforms as well. Vinyl is probably the absolute best way to experience a high quality recording. Both CD and Vinyl involve packaging design and art work. You can read about the story behind the recording, songs, photos, personnel involved, recording dates, studios and locations and personal bios. The product is then presented in beautiful print and artful graphics as part of a whole experience. For some audiences, I believe providing this kind of presentation still offers meaning. It also is representative of the overall quality embedded within the CD and music. Streaming music removes most detail found in CD or vinyl packaging and offers low quality audio resolution and no sense of tangible product ownership or information regarding the recording, personal, etc. The convenience of streaming has basically cheapened the overall consumer experience and totally changed the landscape of how music is created, tracked, played back and how artists are compensated. In essence it has taken an art form which relies on people interconnecting and separated them out into isolated fragments. When creating music for a record, I prefer having live human interaction, musicians in the same room tracking at least rhythm section parts together to get that special live feel. This has become the exception and not the norm.
As a producer Jeff is pretty hands off when it comes to recording the music in studio. Frank Zappa once said this is the best kind of producer to have. With Jeff, musical direction and choice, at least in my case, was left solely up to me. This offered a different approach which allowed the compositions, arrangements and solos to expand in way that allowed the music and to develop from an internal perspective. My concept was fully present and I was able to make use of many of the composition and orchestration tools acquired over the years. AV: You’ve said that every tune on this album "feels like home". Now that the record is finished and ready for the world, does it feel like a closing of a circle for you personally as a Missouri-born musician? TM: I have been very inspired by the landscapes of this region and to tried to capture that beauty along with a personal history in a musically descriptive way. I feel this is personally important. I live in a beautiful melting pot of so many cultures, races and ancestry. To access the many offerings which surround me as an artist is so inspirational. I was able to study with India’s musical ambassador and keeper of its musical Heritage. His lineage dates back 500 years of Ustdat masters. I was trained by some of the finest representatives of Jazz in the world. They were legends in their time living right at my back door; Joe Charles, David Hines, Rick Haydon, for composition Dr. Roland Jordan. I feel immense gratitude for being a musician while living in Missouri. The American Heartland project is my sonic overview of the land I grew up in and a small thank you to a growing gratitude to my place of origin which is America. The next few questions were addressed to and answered by Jeff Weber, Producer AV: You are often noted for a "standard of excellence" in the studio, and for American Heartland, you worked to achieve a sound that is described as both "sophisticated and accessible." From a production standpoint, how do you balance the technical complexity of Todd's compositions with the need to keep the music inviting for a broad audience? JW: Todd sent me a substantial body of work to consider, and my first job was curatorial — identifying which pieces had the melodic strength and arrangement depth to really resonate with listeners. Once we aligned on the material, Todd dove in creatively, drawing on an impressively wide palette of instrumentation and vocal approaches. From there, my role was structural: I deconstructed each arrangement into its component parts, built everything up from the rhythm section foundation, then layered instruments and vocals in a way that served the non-verbal emotional goals of each song. Sophistication and accessibility aren’t opposites — they meet when every element earns its place. AV: This project features an extraordinary rhythm section with legends like Vinnie Colaiuta and Leland Sklar. When you are in the booth at a historic location like Village Studios, what is your process for guiding such high-caliber session masters to ensure their performances serve Todd’s specific vision of the Missouri landscape?
JW: My approach was always to serve the music from the inside out. The sense of place was never absent — it lived behind every note Todd wrote — but I didn’t want to impose it artificially through production decisions. My focus was on capturing the full personality of each instrument and each performance with honesty and care. I knew that my recording engineer, Clark Germain, would then weave those individual captures into a sonic mosaic that honored Todd’s compositions. When you get that right, the geography takes care of itself. The Heartland is in Todd’s musical DNA — our job was simply not to get in the way of it. AV: You’ve worked on a vast array of high-level productions throughout your career, including winning two Grammys. What was it about Todd Mosby’s “painter’s imagination” that made this particular collaboration at Village Studios stand out from other contemporary instrumental projects you’ve helmed? JW: What drew me in was Todd’s commitment to authenticity. In an era where so much music is assembled digitally — loops, sequences, sounds generated entirely “in the box” — Todd came to this project wanting real instruments played by real people in a real room. The arrangements he crafted were rich and layered, but every element was organic and performed live. That matters enormously, because listeners feel the difference even when they can’t articulate it. There’s an emotional connection that live performance creates — a kind of aliveness — that is genuinely difficult to replicate any other way. This project had that quality throughout, and that made it a deeply rewarding experience to be part of. AV: The album includes a diverse range of textures, from the solo acoustic intimacy of “On the Farm” to the “French Impressionist” arrangements of “Clouds Above Golden Fields.” How did you approach the sequencing and overall “arc” of the production to ensure these different styles felt like part of a unified Missouri travelogue? JW: Sequencing is one of my favorite parts of the entire process — I genuinely think of it as an art form in its own right. For this record, I led with gut instinct guided by a few clear priorities. First, I wanted to establish immediately that Todd is a remarkable guitarist. With arrangements this rich in nuance and subtlety, I felt it was essential that listeners connect with him as a performer right from the opening moments. From there, it became about pacing and mood — I wanted the journey through the album to feel organic, even a little unpredictable, rather than following an obvious arc. Tempo variation between songs was carefully considered to keep the listener engaged and leaning forward. And woven through all of it was emotional context: I wanted each song to breathe on its own terms, so that the individual melodic character of each piece could land fully before the next one began. AV: As we close out this conversation, I’d like to extend a sincere thank you to Todd Mosby and Jeffrey Weber for their generosity, openness, and the time they’ve taken to share the story behind American Heartland. It’s clear that this project is the result of not only deep musical craftsmanship, but a genuine passion for place, collaboration, and expression. Conversations like this don’t come around often, and it’s been a real privilege to spend some time inside their creative world. Wishing Todd and Jeffrey continued inspiration and success as this music finds its way out into the world and connects with listeners in the same meaningful way it was created.
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